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Tuning a System is not all Black & White

If you’ve ever been around or spent time working or hanging around a passionate experienced and engineer Audiophile then perhaps this post will give you a few grins. Not because I am humorous or gifted in writing , no, in fact I’m just learning how to write about this stuff. But the grins, they’ll hit you because you are or do know an Audiophile who has this kind of Passion to make any sound system he touches to sound the best that it can possibly sound. And as the title suggests, tuning a system is not all black and white, not some simple check list to follow.

Ed asked me to go along with him to this customers system tuning. The goal was to tune a pair of high end REL Sub-base speakers to a stereo system already tuned for a pair of Wilson Audio Sabrina’s. I learned a lot from this day, so here we go.

The Question: How does one go about tuning a customers system, especially one that is not in an ideal, acoustically treated room? What methodology ought to be applied? (the featured image above shows the Wilson Audio Sabrina’s and the REL G1 Mark II Sub-base/sub-woofers, with the electronics in a concealed cabinet in the wall to the right)

Scenario: I went to my first customer system tuning session by Ed at a home that had a pretty high end system. And the setup was in a living room with a scenario that was not necessarily ideal for achieving optimal sound for the system. What do I mean?

Room Description: It was a beautiful living room, black & white decor, with some stunning natural wood pieces of furniture to accent the black and white tones. Ceramic tile floor, and an entire wall of glass (sliding doors) facing a pool/patio area. Flat Ceiling around 8 feet. Many reflective surfaces including Black & White photographic imagery of the other famous b&w photographer that would make one think of Ansel Adams, if he or she was not well schooled in the work of the two artists.

So, I’ll ask the question again, how does one go about tuning a fairly high end home Audio system in a somewhat hostile environment in regards to getting the best acoustic sound results, and walk away satisfied?

Note to whom might be new to the Audiophile world. Adding a pair or even a single sub-base/sub-woofer speaker to a 2 channel stereo system adds a fuller, more extended, and more dynamic bass range for a stereo system. The Wilson Sabrina’s do an excellent job with the 8 inch driver for bass down to 31 hz, however, by adding a sub-base speaker pair to the main speakers enables the listener to enjoy the bass extension deep into the 20 hz range, but more importantly, this allows the Sabrina to breath more within it’s design range, and let the recordings have their freedom should they have bass that is hungry for that 20-30hz region. (the G1’s do go down to 15 hz, though technically, the human ear I believe to around 19 hz)

I digressed a bit with the above, so back to our Audiophile Dr. approach if you will, to take this environment and bring the potential of the Speakers to their best possible sound in the room. Note: The Wilson Sabrinas were already tuned in by Ed on a previous occasion, but today’s tuning was to blend/tune the pair of newly added REL G1 Mark II Sub-base speakers into the system.

The Gear: The electronics are a McIntosh MA9000 Integrated 2 channel Amplifier (300 WPC). Speakers, as mentioned above, Wilson Audio Sabrina’s and REL G1 Mark II Sub-woofers. The source used was a streaming digital Bluesound unit that used the DAC built into the MA9000, even though the Bluesound unit actually does a surprisingly well job with it’s own built in little dac.

SEE PHOTO GALLERY BELOW.

So I was there for an observation experience only, and just watched and listened to Ed as he submerged his Audiophile listening ears to merge the REL’s with the Sabrina’s within this challenging “resonant rich” room. 🙂 Miguel assisted by changing settings and positioning, as they were shared by Ed.

With Ed Masterson, he approaches tuning a system from a more right brain aspect. He doesn’t let himself be dictated by numbers and settings, per say, but more, his approach is all about the listening. Listening for Tonality balance , phase timing, clarity & extension, airiness, etc. This requires getting up from the center “Sweet Spot” seat, making adjustments, and sitting back down. And, because Steve and his Wife do a lot of standing, Ed also kept checking the system from standing at the very back of the living room, close to the kitchen. (one of the photos show the depth & size of the living room) I’m just gonna go ahead and say this. For the most part, Ed is for the most part against “Room Correction or Eq Systems”. Bass tuning software, different story. Generally speaking, Ed is a tuning by listening first, not graphs and numbers etc. But, he does remain open minded to hear about new methods 🙂

It was amazing actually to watch Ed work. Word to the wise, Don’t interrupt him, unless he glances around asking for thoughts. He’s tunnel vision. You will break his flow when he is hyper focused in a tuning session. So, he started off, by listening for the timing or phase of the subs with the Sabrina’s, to make sure the subs were adding and not canceling out any of the low end sound. If the drivers are pushing out on the main speakers, well, you want the sub-woofer to be in phase with the speakers and be pushing out also. At the same time, it appeared he also addressed any bloating or excessive base that seemed to be apparent with the subs, simply because they had not been tuned yet to the room. This he addressed slowly over the next 1.5 or so hours thru constantly re-positioning the subs, fine tuning the volume, the crossover settings as he brought these two piano gloss black beauties into harmony with this awesome system that Steve and His Wife owned.

Once Ed finds the spot, where the REL’s really seemed to energize the room, having that very deep extension, and pressurized the room, then he seemed to go into fine tuning orientation angle of the subs, tweaking the volume, the crossovers. As he’s doing this, Ed always uses his chosen 10 or 20 tracks to determine certain things or nuances in those songs, and whether the speakers are delivering those sounds, (and not hiding or canceling out) and within the correct sound stage width and depth. We seemed to be getting close after an hour or so, but something was eating away at Ed’s thoughts, and it just didn’t seem like he was going to address it with the movement and settings adjustments that Miguel had been doing so far as per Ed’s requests.

Then an idea out of left field hit Ed. (as it appeared to me) Now normally, most of our high end speakers and amplifiers (speaking as a newer 2-3 year Audiophile) are set up in 4 Ohm on the amplifier out setting. As this was the case with the MA 9000 McIntosh in Steve’s system. But Ed asked Miguel if we can experiment with the Amp, and connect the speaker cables to 8 Ohm out. This took an extra 15 or 20 minutes to change over. A wall board panel had to be removed with the drill so that the entire gear rack could be spun around in order to make the changeover to 8 Ohm to the speakers on the back of the integrated amplifier, instead of 4 Ohm. Once this was done, any remnants of weightiness or heavy bass had disappeared. (As I strive to learn Audiophile jargon thanks to the help of Robert Harley and his awesome “The Complete Guide to High-End Audio – 5th Edition”), I can’t help but express that when that magic base popped, and had energized the room, the mid-range also seemed to expose more of it’s awesome timbre and clarity along with the treble. With another 10 or 15 minutes of fine tuning, Ed was happy. Then, Ed began listening to some of the tracks that Steve and His wife like to listen to, to make sure that these also sounded excellent.

On a final note, by switching the output over to 8 Ohm’s, it may have reduced a small amount of the base punch that would be more apparent at 4 Ohm’s, but Ed knew, that while he was tuning, it is always best to turn off the Equalizer (Frequency settings controls on a Mac which have 8 adjustment knobs from 25 Hz up to 10 kHz). It is made to have it on or off, depending on the listener. But for tuning, you definitely want it off. But now, if Steve wanted to increase the punch of the base or lower midrange, he could easily turn the Equalizer on the Mac right back on, make his frequency enhancements, and it would not accidentally alter or change the physical tuning that Ed and Miguel had done in the last couple hours.

In just an hour and a half to maybe two hours, Ed had turned this two channel stereo system with the new addition of 2 REL G1 Mark II subs into a very nice and powerful sounding system in what was a potentially hostile room for resonance issues with all the glass doors, piano, glass picture frames, ceramic floor, etc, for the Wilson floorstanders and/or the subwoofers. This, is Ed’s passion, and was a great learning experience for me.

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Audiophile Semper Hi Fi

I may get punched for my title, and that’s okay. It is truth 🙂

My job , or one of them here at Audible Images AV as the Marketing guy is to experiment, test gear, etc. and then share my experience in our blog. This is a straight observation I experienced myself and I know it needs to be shared, cause it was pretty cool, and also why I believe Audible Images AV has been around for 12 years already.

So, the characters in this story happen to be Ed (my boss and friend), James, Brent, Myself and 12 cats. (1 of 12 cats looking on, from right side of couch in immediate image below) The scenario is an Audiophile who needed some help tuning his system (as a friend as opposed to being an actual customer) and incorporating a newly added subwoofer that is of a much older generation of subs, to his home theater.

Black Cat enjoys Sonus Faber Veneres w/ NAD receiver & Velodyne sub System

Background details & slight tangent…

About 6 months or so in with my stint here at Audible Images, I met James, a friend of Ed Masterson’s who came into our showroom who had worked with Ed at Kennedy Space Center back in the early 90’s. They both worked for a major defense contractor there, and James the friend, who is also an Audiophile and a person who won a pair of Sonus Faber Venere 1.5’s at an event we held (a drawing if u will), a year or so before I got here. (I’ve been an Audiophile and here at Audible for a little over 2 years)

So going back around a year or so, James came in to pickup a center channel he was buying as a friend if you will, the “Venere Center” from Ed to incorporate a center channel into his home theater as a matching piece. (piano black is the color of his Sonus Faber Venere series at his home). Naturally when a friend, existing customer or new visitor comes into the showroom, we give them a demo for fun, so that they know what the ultimate sounding system is out there in the world. Conveniently, that ultimate system resides right here in our showroom here in Melbourne, Florida. We have three listening rooms in our showroom: 2 theater demo rooms which include one modest high performance system called “The Escape Pod” and the other Ultra High End High Performance system & room called “The Transporter” plus the third room is a medium high end two channel listening room called “The Great Room”. James had already heard our other systems, but he had not heard the latest upgrade in “The Transporter” reference/listening room, with the additional new 6 sub-base / subwoofers in the front of the room. They are the REL G1 Mark II Sub-base speakers (Subs famous for 2 channel listening & also used for LFE theater, stacked in arrays of 3.) I had been testing a song I hadn’t heard in years called “Lazy” by Deep Purple on their Machine Head album, when James came in whom I had just met that day for the first time. “Lazy” sounded incredible in “The Transporter”. (Genre: Hard rock, Heavy metal, Blues rock) James had let on that he was a hard core Deep Purple fan and after going thru a set of tracks from “Machine Head” and then from the Made in Japan live album which James had highly recommended we listen to, (1973 U.S. release album), James took off after an hour or so of listening to intense rock/metal/blues. And as a friend of Ed’s he later called and had asked Ed if sometime, Ed could visit his home to tune the system. Now this request was riding on Ed’s mind for quite a while. (a few months) Ed working 6 days a week forever, this was a hard thing to do, to take an afternoon off and evening, and make the almost one hour drive to a friends, to tune his system. Ed gets very little family time at night.

The Purpose of the Day and Events

So to bring it back on track from my tangent, back around the first of June this year (2019), while Ed was working a Saturday showroom day, he texted me about going to James house after showroom hours to tune his system. I was feeling like dung less 10%, and so I let fly back via text, lemme see how I feel later. But I texted Ed back in 30 minutes, and said let’s just get our friend James pumped and tuned.

Now Ed enjoys eating. So, when I asked him if he could swing by and just pick me up on the way North he said, don’t eat before he comes, we’re doing Kelsey’s. What’s special about that? Well, Kelsey’s is a kick ass (excuse the french) Italian/Greek restaurant (a family chain of 4 or 5 local stores in Brevard County and back in the late 80’s they even had one across from UCF when we were going there, and it was about our favorite eating spot) in which Ed, Brent and Myself love their pizza and it’s sweet dough and their almost sensuous Greek salads with a house dressing that matches the awesomeness. So Brent would meet Ed and I at Kelsey’s in Titusville, eat a festive meal, than all 3 Audiophiles would head over to James for a System Tuning and Cat Entertaining party. (James and his Wife have 12 cats, 1 outdoor and 11 that live indoor 🙂 )

When we got to James home, you could tell James was an Audiophile. How? He had delicate custom made speaker pillowcase covers for his Venere 1.5’s on stands and his gear was in a dedicated closet by the front door that normally houses coats and umbrellas for most people, lol. So, Ed and Brent worked on James system. And I kept the 11 indoor cats distracted from the tuning people. The challenge was trying to get a 15+ year old sub to play nicely in two channel mode, and also to be tuned in with the thump and boom it needed to add in 5.1 theater listening mode too. I know Velodyne makes good subs because Brent and Ed have said so. (Note: Brent, also a lifetime Audiophile, who also worked with Ed at the Cape, has a crazy high end theater. D’Agostino Momentum Mono Blocs for the fronts of his 7.2 system, and a 130 inch screen for his theater with 5 cushy theater chairs.) But I, being of a newer generation of Audiophiles, having been exposed to REL Acoustics ingenuous 2 channel setup mode that uses High level connection which has totally in my opinion, revolutionized the dynamic range listening access and experience of low frequency bass in two channel and then also LFE for surround 5.1 or 7.1 sub woofing sound.

It took about 2 1/2 hours for Ed to satisfy himself for blending the sub and tuning the system and the 2 front left and right speakers to the rear surface mounted surrounds so that the NAD 748 Receiver could deliver it’s most enjoyable listening served up. Perhaps the positioning of the Venere 1.5’s had only been adjusted 21 times, I can’t say for sure 🙂

Before we took off, I said goodbye to the affectionate and also attack cats that James owned, shot some photos of the system in his living room, and we then took off for home.

Ed dropped me off around 9:30 Pm, a long day for Ed, but a good one. We laughed our butts off a number of times while eating dinner and after dinner from a few “older” type jokes we used to employ while back as roommates in college at UCF. And we know James was stoked with his now tuned up system. Semper Hi Fi …

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Jose’s Passion for Music and How Ed Masterson Helped with The Dream A/V System

Jose Martinez is probably the most Passionate music listener and collector that I will meet in my lifetime.  Granted I am only into my third year as an Audiophile, but I believe you will also agree with me.  Florida Today newspaper did an exceptionally nice article about Jose and his collection here.

The video below shares the incredible extent of Jose’s library, how long ago he started it, the road to getting his ultimate theater system designed and the rare chance of how he met Ed Masterson of Audible Images to undertake the amazing project of the Ultimate theater.

On a  personal note, I have visited Jose’s home and listened to a theater demo a number of times, but the last one I experienced, was the most brief and also the most intense enjoyment of all.  Jose is the Master at giving demos for his system. We had a National and Regional Sales director from MartinLogan, and they had a plane to catch, their time was very limited, so Jose made the best of 45 minutes time.  After a few vinyl 2 channel masterpieces, and a few movie clips, Jose closed it out with a very emotional finale for me of feeling submersed in the Moment at the Concert if you will experience, of  “David Gilmour Live At Pompeii” from the incredible 2016 performance over 2 days.

The system is composed of Dan D’Agostino Momentum mono blocks, Audio Research, MartinLogan Neolith speakers, JL Audio Gothams, a 165 inch screen and a whole lot more.

Enjoy!

Jose Martinez's passion for music and testimonial about Ed Masterson & Audible Images

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Protect your Mac stack with the new MPC500 McIntosh Power Controller

When you’ve got $5 – 10K or more worth of really nice high end McIntosh and/or mixed gear, isn’t it prudent to protect your investment, with something you know has already been tested with McIntosh gear?

You can now get it done with the new MPC500 McIntosh Power Controller. (MSRP $2500) See the product here.

You can connect up to 8 pieces of gear (U.S. power sources of 120 volts AC , and/or see manual for 240 volt protection), and setup trigger cables with your preamp to the amplifier, turntable and more for altogether power on convenience.  It protects against brutal power surges from lightning, and also for protecting low voltage devices against secondary surges and spikes that can occur after the initial event.  See the three thermally protected metal-oxide varistors (TPMOVs) explanation from McIntosh below the diagram.

On our showroom floor, we have the Controller connecting the Mac stack in our “Great Room” reference/listening room, which includes the McIntosh C2600 2-Channel Vacuum Tube Preamplifier, the new powerhouse McIntosh MC462 Solid State Amplifier and the McIntosh MT5 2-Channel Precision Turntable.  I may also connect the Bluesound Node 2i Wireless Multi-Room Hi-Res Music Streamer DAC that we use as a second source for the McIntosh system.  Below I have attached the MPC500 Power Controller Connection Diagram.  (The diagram happens to explain the connection of a Theater Processor, an Am/FM tuner and a Media Bridge, but for our purposes, it will be a bit less involved for the components we are using, though the process is still essentially the same, trigger cables, ethernet, rs232, etc.  Note: this diagram is for 120 VAC, there is a 2nd diagram for 240 VAC)  Below are additional photos of our McIntosh stack in “The Great Room”.

Connection diagram for MPC 500 Controller - mpc500cd1and2-01_Page_1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Concise explanation excerpt from McIntosh website:

AC power line protection is accomplished with the use of three thermally protected metal-oxide varistors (TPMOVs) – which are far safer than traditional MOVs – that provide you with Line to Neutral, Line to Ground and Neutral to Ground protection. For secondary surge events, the MPC500 provides protection for your ethernet, coaxial, and other low voltage devices via Gas Discharge Tubes (GDT), Positive Temperature Coefficient (PTC) thermistors and Transient Voltage Suppression (TVS) components. Also included in the MPC500 is electromagnetic interference (EMI) filtering of the AC line and over/under voltage protection, which will switch off the rear receptacles to keep your connected devices safe from trying to operate at undesired voltage levels.”

 

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How Special Do The Sonus Faber Sonetto Series Speakers Sound In A Spare Bedroom Type Listening Room?

In the generally more modest of our three listening / reference rooms at Audible Images AV, we are breaking in the Sonus Faber Sonetto Series speakers setup in our “Escape Pod” reference room.   Come in for a Demo.

Sonetto Series speakers by Sonus Faber and NAD M17 Preamp w M27 7 channel ampI’ll keep this short and to the point.  (Google prefers 1000 + word blog posts 😉 ) It sounds really really good.  We have them tuned in really nice for that two channel center sweet spot listening seat, and in 7.1 Theater where there’s room for 3 on the couch as in a family room 🙂

We have three speakers from the Sonetto Series on display for listening; the Sonetto Center II and the Sonetto 3’s setup for the front left and right.  (See the excellent Sonetto 3 review by hometheaterreview.com here) For the surround speakers and rear surrounds we have some smaller in-wall speakers.  To round out the low end base dynamics for the room we also have two REL Acoustics T7i Sub-Base speakers against the front wall.  We can demo the room with the subs on and off.

On screen in the photos is the visual display of the Bluesound Streaming (a Dire Straits song) card card in the NAD Master Series M17 Preamplifier/Processor along with the M27 seven channel Amplifier.  The system sounds quite awesome.

Come on in for a low key , melt in the couch demo.  Shut the door and test out the 2 Channel stereo or the 7.1 system.  See Gallery below.

 

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How might the MartinLogan 60 XT’s compared with Sonus Faber Sonetto 3’s satisfy your Audiophile lust for Modest High End Tower Speakers?

Another play day in the Garden of Audible.

So today I have the honor (emphasis) of playing and comparing the stunning Cherry gloss finish MartinLogan Motion 60 XT tower speakers ($2999 see the product page here) and the lute shaped Italian Walnut finished beauty, namely the Sonetto 3 ($3999,  see product page here), from the still fairly new Sonetto series.  (Note: many colors available, shown in the larger photo gallery below)

The results were awesome.  (in case you’re a skimmer)

Sharing the fun about hearing great new Speakers on the floor, or Amps, or any other aspect of a Day in the Life at Audible Images AV is every Audiophiles dream.  At least it is for me.  I’m also the Marketing guy for us. And since our culture around here is Have Fun, Enjoy learning and Share the fun with others, and the Customers will just enjoy asking Ed for the order, instead of us asking because they can feel his total Passion and Knowledge about designing and tuning systems.   

Now, there’s no getting around the Audiophile crossfit aspect of setting up big, or delicate or just plain heavy stuff, but then we all know that’s just part of the hobby, so anyhow here we go. 😉

My electronics and source were the Dan D’Agostino Momentum Integrated 2 channel Amplifier, and the dCS Rossini DAC and player as a source (streaming).  I chose to use Streaming from the Rossini using Roon (music management system) with a high Rez Tidal account.  Now I know, you’re probably thinking the $45K D’Agostino Integrated is overkill for a $3 to 4K pair of speakers, but there are two reasons why I made the choice.  Because it was close and already setup 🙂  Additionally, when we got a demo from our Sonus Faber & McIntosh rep, back when the Sonetto series came out in late 2018 (see the post here), we had the chance to hear the Sonetto 2 and 5’s, using the Parasound P7 preamp (around $2295 new) with the Parasound A31 (around $3295 new), 3 channel x 250 watt solid state amplifier that we were selling as pre-owned gear for a customer.  And they sounded quite good with those, so perhaps using a much higher end Amp would expose any of the shortcomings or the excellent attributes of the Sonetto 3’s or the 60XT’s.  So here we go.

Please note in the 2 images below: The 60XT’s are actually 8 inches taller than the Sonetto 3 (as in the post header graphic).  The photos below are scaled automatically in the photo gallery settings 🙂  Also, see additional gallery at bottom of page.

Listening to these two beauties was a mixture of Love of listening, Lust and Learning; as I discovered both speakers sound quite spectacular, but had I not gotten the knowledge of placement and specifics of tuning from Ed for these specific speakers, I might have missed the magic that I soon came to hear from both pair.  (More on the tuning details below, as this was a mistake even veterans can make on setting up and tuning these particular speakers 🙂 )

Now so we’re clear  as to my purpose here, this is an experiential blog post, not a review persay. Part of my job, is listening to modest all the way up to ultra crazy high end and sharing what I heard or felt.  If you would like to read detailed reviews to take it further, here is an excellent review on the Sonetto 3’s by hometheaterreview.com here.

If you are on the hunt for some floorstanders in the 2K to 4K bracket to complete your system,  these MartinLogan Motion 60 XT’s and Sonetto 3’s will provide a very enjoyable listening demo for you.  Ed Masterson, Owner, Engineer, Audiophile at Audible Images, makes clear that he doesn’t like the sales guy thing.  Can’t stand the whole pressure or tactic thing.  So that’s one of the reasons I’m blogging and doing Social Media, so you’ll know what a relaxed atmosphere we have in the showroom, and how we’re pretty passionate about setting up speakers just right for you to really hear what you’re thinking about adding to your system.  

So how do these floorstanders sound?  How do they compare? What kind of music are they best suited for?  What are the differences, nuances?

Well, I started my demo comparison the same way I always do as taught by my friend and boss Ed.  Use a specific collection of tracks that I would use to test any and all gear, so that the nuances of the speakers or gear and their differences would become obvious fairly quickly.   So I did this with 6 specific tracks and then afterwards I bounced around in choices to see how well I just melted into the listening chair and slipped out of the test pilot chair.

The 6 Tracks used initially:

  • Fade to Black – “On Every Street” album by Dire Straits
  • Birds of St. Mark – “Solo Acoustic, Vol. 1” album by Jackson Brown
  • Come Away with Me – by Norah Jones
  • Lush Life – by Kate Reid
  • Nature Boy – by the Nordahl Trio/Lisa Ekdahl
  • Hotel California – “Hell Freezes Over” (acoustic version) – Eagles

The Motion 60XT’s  deliver a much warmer sound then the Sonetto 3’s in my experience, probably because of the two 8 inch sub-woofers in the Motion’s vs the two 5.9 inch woofers in the Sonus Faber Sonetto 3.  (a nice review, on the Motion 60XT’s also at hometheaterreview.com here)  There is no muddiness in either pair, nor any brightness that I could feel.  The tonal balance was quite different between the two, (most noticeably because of the extra bass delivery in the Motion’s). But very enjoyable for both.  The treble was pleasant for both, nothing grainy or bright.  The extension in treble seems to be a little greater in the Sonetto’s, more detail, not colored, more articulate.  Smooth and fairly gentle on both in treble. 

I really enjoyed the strong deeper octave chord strikes in the piano from Jackson Brown’s “The Birds of St. Marks” on the 60XT’s.  The energy really made me feel like I was there, you could feel the chords in your chest kind of, as he pounded them in this live recording.  The decay sounded natural (meaning without artifacts),  keeping in mind, the source is all digital from the dCS.  Now I will confess, that for those of you who want an extreme level of articulation in mid-range of percussion, the Sonetto 3 did share a bit more airiness about them, and an even greater level of timbre integrity if you will. 

On the Sonetto’s, that raspy textured voice of Norah Jones had a very detailed and natural resonance.  You had no problem seeing and hearing Norah just a foot or two right of center in the middle of the stage.  Very clearly defined.

On both pair, the acoustic bass in the song “Nature Boy” , Lisa Ekdahl, you could hear and feel the texture of the strings, from the plucking, scraping and vibrating decay.  I love to play this song just to hear how resonant the fingers on that acoustic bass are going to sound, both during the strike and as the fingers travel down the instrument.

I closed the “Test Songs” with ‘Hotel California” , the acoustic guitar version from “Hell Freezes Over”, and of course, this was done on purpose.  That classic intro of the song with multiple artists in the band playing acoustic guitars each doing their own special section of the song, sitting on their chairs in a harmony of transition with the next guy if u will, and the unique drum intro that follows is fairly breathtaking sonically on a high end system.  Plus, personally that 1977 concert in Orlando (or Tampa) right after Joe Walsh joined the Eagles (yeah, I’m an older guy), even though it was the electric guitar version back then, it just makes a special song to close out any demo. And one that I can listen to every day on these incredible sounds systems at work. When you get to hear such perfection sonically almost every day at work, no song gets old. 🙂

So from those 6 tracks,  I will say, both speakers are keepers in their price point.  Now is there a significant difference between the two?  Yes, as shared above.  Do they satisfy your favorite style of music?  This is where having your own personal listening demo would provide the answer.  And, visually, both speakers will probably create smiles for the other half, as their designs are quite gorgeous if you will.

Two key points: The MartinLogan XT’s could not be pointed at you and you had to sit much further back.  And the Sonetto 3’s, were pointed right at you, you sat much closer, and the rake angle was critical for not only the treble, but also for the bass.  How could anyone know this, unless they were an audiophile with tuning experience, or had someone explain this to them when demo-ing the speakers for consideration?  Absolute Sound does an excellent detailed review on the 60XT’s, and the summary on this page 3 link, nails it.

Now here’s where I surrendered the test pilot hat, and sank into personal mode.  I decided to listen to some Europe jazz (for those of you New Orleans or Chicago jazz/blues purists, I strongly suggest adjusting & expanding your palette, because the talent and style of the artists in “Jazz at the Pawnshop”, 1977 original recording, opens a whole new genre of Jazz.)  I first heard some of it a couple years ago, but have spent more time listening to it now at work.

When I was first exposed to Jazz in my early listening days, it was around my senior year in high school, and back then, an African American buddy Stu,  that I worked with after school turned me on to George Benson, Billy Cobham, and yes John Coltrane, and a few other artists that I can’t recall this moment, I realize,  that now, having Tidal to continually expand my listening tastes is such a gift for seasoned and new Audiophiles today.   I will also say, that having row 6 tickets for the Chuck Mangione concert back in 1979 in a theater with only 2-3000 seats that had excellent acoustics, I can literally re-live better sound than that concert in The Transporter at work.

So, I ask, when does a vibrophonist get your attention during a listening session? When Lars Erstand in the album “Jazz at the Pawnshop” does an intimate duet with the bass player in the track ‘Fascinating Rhythm (Live), be Good!: Oh, lady, be good’.  Three or so minutes of dedicated vibrophone enjoyment with the contrast of subtle electric bass.  The colors from those two little mallets brought out so many colors (listening on the 60XT’s now), I became entranced by just hearing Lars duets with other instruments in the recording in addition to just the background complement of the Vibrophone.  What a great recording to just enjoy an instrument that you very rarely listen to.  Like 4rth of July Fireworks colors, but in audio colors enjoyment! (I’m still a new guy to Audiophilia)

Feel free to drop in during showroom walk-in hours, or call ahead to hear these 2 wonderful speakers, and maybe even hear some Electrostatics if you’ve never had the chance, to hear 3 totally unique speaker designs in your budget area.  You will totally enjoy pecking Ed’s brain and submerging in our listening rooms.

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Customer Scott Hurley Sharing His Testimonial About His After The Sale Experience with Ed at Audible Images AV

This is one of those Customer Testimonials that a simple Thank You, just comes up short, for the truth and conviction that Scott shares here about Ed.  

Nonetheless, we give Thanks to Scott 🙂

Enjoy the video.

Scott's Testimonial about Ed Masterson after the Customer's Installation is complete.

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How Might the New McIntosh MTI100 Integrated Turntable Fill Your Audio Needs?

The brand new McIntosh MTI100 is a very nice piece in many ways.  Be sure to see the photo gallery below.

Woody, our McIntosh Rep brought the Mac piece in today, and as usual McIntosh fulfilled the eye candy test, with the preamplifer tubes on the deck.

If you are definitely a Vinyl guy or woman and your electronics are somewhat antiquated then this piece might just be for you. An integrated Amplifier/DAC/Turntable with a number of input choices.

The source we enjoyed today was a digital Bluesound Node 2i ($499), the speakers were the Martin Logan Motion 60XT Floorstander speakers ($2995/pr) with the folded motion tweeters.  The MTI100 ($6495) with a 50 Wpc amplifier filled the space very nicely in our “Great Room” reference room.  

My brief encounter with the new piece and above mentioned gear was one of warmth, maybe some extended bass, but not muddy. (The 60XT’s are kind of warm anyhow and with 2 each 8 inch Woofer drivers you won’t feel cheated on the low end.)  Overall, the delivery from the Mac was warm.  The mid-range perhaps had emphasis on the lower mids, but not excessive.  Woody cranked it up close to the top, and it was not lacking power in that room.  It was a very brief test, but was not disappointing. 

I see posts on the Audiophile forums about people wanting to get started in Vinyl, and at what level $dollarwise makes sense, and for a home office or silver platter college dorm, add the speakers and streaming source (if you desire both analog and streaming), based on McIntosh history, you should be well pleased.  I mention the latter, because we did not get a chance to hear the platter, as the setup time for tuning in the turntable was not available, so we just listened to the DAC and the Amplifier.

This is not available on our showroom floor.  But will certainly be available from our McIntosh line. However, I believe all three of us were quite impressed with the Sound, the Appearance and the convenience of the MTI100 inputs which included digital, optical and analog.

McIntosh appears to have delivered a very nice piece once again.

Thank You.

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Who Has A Home Theater System With Only Three Speakers?

People tell us all the time upon a visit to our Showroom: “I didn’t know stores like this exist anymore!” Where you can not only hear what you are buying, but actually have it set up in an isolated room without other shoppers or noise around, and focus on the pleasure and your own tastes.

The featured image above is directly from the Bluesound website. Because it works perfect for the point I’m making today 😊 A TV, 2 speakers and a rounded black box (Amplifier).

Your first Home Theater system with in this case, three speakers, not two, 6 or 7, but 3.  (Explained below)

This three speaker theater sounds fantastic, it takes up so little space. You can add stuff to it like a CD player or Turntable and when you’re ready to step into the next level of theater (if you do), this system will make an entertainment center in another room, a college dorm, for visiting family in a guest bedroom or a home office, etc.

Who creates a Home Theater with just three speakers?

Someone like myself: Just starting out with my first system, budget is tight, yet I want something that sounds excellent, and is easy to use.

What is the System?

A pair of PSB Imagine Mini Bookshelf speakers ($750/pair), a REL Acoustics T7i Amplifier Powered Sub-Base Speaker (Subwoofer – $999/ea.), a Bluesound Powernode 2i Digital Streamer – Stereo Amplifier – WiFi – Music Server – DAC ($799 – all in one), a pair of PSB stands ($299), Transparent Audio Cables (approx. $150) and your existing TV (though we can provide your Sony TV needs). All for about $2997. NO PRESSURE.

Just come in to hear it. And then go home and think about it. Also, think about every night when you get home from work, bad day or good day, you will have this little escape area in your home to chill out.

How Difficult is the Setup?

Take the optical or coaxial audio out connection on your smart tv into the back of your BlueSound Powernode 2i, Make your left and right speaker connections, plug your powered subwoofer into the Subw connection in the back of the Powernode, then you’ll need to get into your TV settings and turn off the TV speakers and since all TV’s are a little different, you may have to modify a couple other TV audio settings and also choose Surround sound or similar and naturally one confusing thing will hit you, and when you figure that one out, You’re Done!

Negative Comments

This is the part that the big box stores or online vendors that sell a 5.1 system in a box for $399 do not tell you. It’s going to sound like garbage. You would have been better off buying a $200 set of headphones and an iPhone dock.

Systems that actually sound good do in fact cost some money. Ya do need to spend at least a couple grand to have something that you will not get a headache listening to, and something that when company comes over to your home, they actually tell you that it sounds great.

Summary

Bluesound products have been around for quite a while and we have many happy customers who have bought them from us. PSB speakers including the ones in this story, Won TAS (The Absolute Sound) 2017 Editors Choice Award. REL Acoustics has the Sub-Base speaker system down, (has earned a number of great reviews, Tone Audio and The Absolute Sound) where it sounds great as a home theater speaker that goes boom, or for 2 channel stereo, it takes a modest pair of speakers and fills in the dynamic range of sounds in the low end that you’d normally be missing.

Also, this Powernode 2i has a really excellent DAC at it’s price point, and when you connect this system with your favorite music streaming service, of which I strongly recommend Tidal for your service, and you now have most any music in high resolution at your fingertips.  Later, you can look into Roon (because Roon and Tidal have the ultimate Audiophile combo) to organize, search and expand your listening library.  Check out Roon here. 

Ed Masterson at Audible Images AV is an Audiophile at heart. He hates sales, does not allow sales pressure, however, he does insist (without pressure) that you let him give you a brief listening tour of all 3 of our Reference Listening Rooms so that you experience something you never have before in your life.

Come in and treat yourself to a relaxed, no sales, listening experience. Ask all the questions you want!

Thank you.

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Two Great Sounding under $800 NAD Amplifiers Reviewed for Audiophiles on a Strict Budget

Before I delve into my plug about two NAD Amplifiers, I’d like to mention the RMAF , the Rocky Mountain Audio Fest and how it appeared to have not only a revived entourage, but has been stated by many, WHAT A GREAT SHOW FOR THIS 2018 YEAR!.  For those not in the know, what is it specifically?

Well, from the Company, here’s their definition/description: The Rocky Mountain International Audio Fest (RMAF) is the largest consumer audio and home entertainment show in the United States. Simply put: “mega stereo systems!”

Okay, nuff said on that. “mega stereo systems” is the take away.

Here at Audible Images AV, we are all about excellent, spectacular sound.  Not fancy bells and whistles of mass market that distract from an excellent sound emphasis, but just really really well chosen and designed Audio Systems.  Ranging from Modest High Performance to Ultra Ultra High End systems.

So needless to say, I was pretty stoked to read the excellent reviews by Neil Gader of TAS (The Absolute Sound mag) February 2019 issue in his portion of the SHOW REPORT for Rocky Mountain Audio Fest 2018 about a couple of NAD products at the show.  The NAD C 658 BluOS DAC/Preamplifier/Streamer, the NAD D 3045 Integrated Amplifier.  And in the same magazine  issue, Paul Seydor wrote “Prepare to be astonished” review (not mentioned in the RMAF section) , but nonetheless a very upbeat 7 page article and plug about the NAD C 328 Hybrid Digital DAC Amplifier and C 546BEE CD Player.

If you are a new Audiophile, or a seasoned one looking for an Amplifier that sounds great and is priced under $800, then you’ll be pleased to find this post. I just want to focus on two of the NAD products mentioned.  The NAD D 3045 Integrated Amplifier and the NAD C 328 Hybrid Digital DAC Amplifier.

Why am I focusing on these two? Because NAD has a vastly superior sound to that of equivalent priced products of competitors.  And if you read the intro on our Brands page at Audible Images, and come into our Showroom, you’ll learn that Ed Masterson, Owner, Engineer is all about the Sound Quality and Tuning to make great systems sound even better.  Not pushing product… (that happens just by folks hearing our systems and learning Ed’s passion)

So what’s great about the NAD D 3045?  I offer up a bullet list.  (See the gallery below the bullets)

Plusses

  • the Sound quality is great
  • the price is only $699
  • we have the D 3020 connected to an office computer and with the PSB Speakers Imagine Mini Bookshelf speakers, it sounds great at 30 Wpc
  • the D 3045 has 60 Wpc
  • has an asynchronous USB 24/192 input
  • support for MQA and DSD
  • Bluetooth powered by aptX HD
  • a high quality MM (moving magnet) phonostage for vinyl enthusiasts
  • owners can choose between horizontal or vertical orientation for the amp
  • in addition to BluOS streaming content, MQA decoding is available on all digital inputs
  • both preamp and subwoofer outputs are included for additional connection flexibility
  • and as Neil Gader mentions, “icing on the cake” is the premium quality headphone jack on the front panel

 

So what’s great about the NAD C 328 Hybrid Digital Amp?  I offer a bullet list.  (See the gallery below the bullets)

  • the sound quality is great
  • price is only $549
  • 50 Wpc output (20Hz-20kHz at rated THD) both channels driven
  • THD 0.005% at 1 V output
  • 3 line level on RCA analog inputs
  • 1 mm phono 
  • 2 Coaxial digital input
  • 2 Toslink optical inputs
  • Bluetooth
  • You can run your TV with optical out right into the amp for great TV sound with the onboard DAC in the C 328
  • Line level Subwoofer out RCA jack

Did I mention, NAD is a 45 year old company?  No shame, I know 🙂

Though we don’t stock the 2 Amps mentioned on our floor (we don’t have the room), we have plenty of NAD/BlueSound amplifier products (NAD amps are built into Bluesound units) on the floor for you to completely convince yourself that in the $399 to $899 range and beyond, you will really enjoy the sound of your new NAD Amplifier should you choose to bring one into your home.

In Summary, I mentioned the plug for these 2 NAD items because for years, Audible Images AV in Melbourne, FL has been very impressed with the High Performance sound of NAD Amplifiers.  And when folks walk into our showroom, sometimes they think we only carry Ultra High End gear.  That is not the case.  Now Ed or one of us will do our best to have you listen to all 3 listening rooms so that you will always have a Reference for what is out there, and for the most Spectacular sound you will ever hear.  A visit to our Showroom will blow your mind, and that’s what makes it really fun.  

We all would probably enjoy driving a 2019 Porsche 911 Turbo, even if we couldn’t own one 😉

But we are all about providing you Great Audio Sound in whatever your budget.

Thank you.

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