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The Finer Points of the dCS Apex Upgrade for Vivaldi DAC

from the Blog of Oldwaverider:

After Miguel installed the Apex upgrade for our Vivaldi DAC, our observations were quite positive.  So as not to sound boring in comparison, I would rather you read our customer’s comments and observations of their upgrade below 😉

Vivaldi_VDC_Apex_Hero_BackSince the upgrade of our Showroom Vivaldi, we have done a number of upgrades for our customers.  Tuesday (06/28/2022), we did an upgrade for a customer, and His feedback delivered smiles for all of us here at Audible Images. Enjoy the Testimonial.

Testimonial by a Customer, 2 days after getting his upgraded DAC home: 

I did extensive listening today. I think dCS burns the boards ahead of time.  Top to bottom, all is excellent. I hear a bit more bass extension with excellent pitch and timing definition. The midrange is rich, sumptuous with great detail and timber control. Probably the best, in the upper frequencies. That’s where digital has fallen short, until now. There is so much air and spaces between notes. Cymbals now sound right (never before in digital). There is a delicacy and decisiveness that has eluded digital till now. Trying to get a high hat or symbol crash right was a hot mess previously, not now. The air injected into the listening experience and proper timing is brilliant.

Analogue always did a great job with the high end, I feel that this now has met it’s match. There is great authority on the soundstage and presentation. The backgrounds are quieter and the space between notes better delineated. The soundstage is blooming. This upgrade is more than advertised, it is a transformation of the best digital can provide. Never have I had a better audio experience. Old recordings sound so good. Newer recordings are equally as good.

I am smitten in the improvement. Any customer that thinks this is not a worthy upgrade is wrong. This kicks!

Thanks for all your accommodations on my visit.

(Speakers and Electronics in customers system: Radialstrahler mbl 101 E MK II Loudspeakers, MBL Monobloc amplifiers, Soulution Preamplifier)

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Should I Get Electronics First or Sonus Faber Lumina II’s?

From the blog of Oldwaverider…

We pretty much always suggest, go for good electronics first. (We, meaning those of us here at Audible Images AV, Melbourne, FL)

That said, my controversial answer in the context of Spousal debate would be, go ahead and do both first. Your choice of electronics and the Lumina II’s.

THE GENERAL SCENARIO

Let’s say you’ve been doing your due diligence in trying to narrow down the best 2 channel stereo system option for your newly redesigned Guest / Listening room. The criteria for this choice of electronics is to keep your budget between $3000 to 5000, also your new system has the ability to crank it up a little bit when you’re in the mood & home alone and that if fits in the dedicated spot on the new furniture/rack. You have room for either an Integrated Amplifier or separate Pre-amplifier and Amplifier. 

Your 18 year old Receiver could die any day now, the one you had at college, and your old speakers seem to be holding up okay, so you’re thinking, should I just go for electronics now?

WHAT DO YA DO?

You do what any deserving Audiophile would do. Go for the electronics of your choice and order a pair of Sonus Faber Lumina II’s so that you have some nice new speakers to go with that Amp (but without breaking the bank), and at the same time you just made your other half very happy because she doesn’t have to see those flat black old box speakers in the front of your nicely redone guest / listening room. Now, she has some visible audio eye candy (the Lumina II’s are pretty stunning to look at) that matches her contemporary interior room design. NOTE: THIS SPOUSAL SCENARIO COULD EASILY HAVE BEEN REVERSED. 

HOW DID THIS BLOG STORY GET STARTED?

The new owner of an online magazine brought in the new Lumina II’s for us to listen to and enjoy for a couple weeks and give our opinion.

Since we’re already a Sonus Faber dealer, a certain amount of positive bias already exists.  And that’s okay, since this isn’t a “Review”, but simply another blog post from my Pacesetter blog.

THE TEST GEAR WE USED

First off, we set them up in our front room called “The Great Room”, and paired them up with the new BlueSound Powernode, 80 wpc Integrated Amplifier / Streamer / DAC all in one.

Right out of the box, we were quickly impressed. However, knowing a bookshelf speaker of this size can only go down to 50-55 hz, I thought I’d make sure we were getting the best sound possible out of these compact, and quite beautiful, Wenge colored front, wrapped in black leather beauties.

So I did some testing pulling them out a couple feet from the wall (not knowing what to do with a bottom ported speaker, not rear or front, but bottom ported).  We placed them on some simple black stands. I messed with the placement width, toed them in a bit to get about a perfect even sided triangle and the base clearly hit it’s best punch, clarity and speed.  Definitely not a bright speaker, just a nice articulate mid range & treble clarity with some spaciousness on the stage and with no grainy colorations or rounded off sounding upper frequencies.  Even the base seemed pretty full in the overall Tonal balance with the new and fairly impressive Bluesound Powernode.

After wowing ourselves in The Great Room, we moved the Lumina II’s into our “Office” listening room. I connected them to the Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum III Vacuum Tube Integrated 100 WPC Amplifier.

Our thoughts (there were a few of us pulled into the room), were that the Lumina II’s shined with the Cronus Magnum in their mid-range and highs, however we did notice that the base extension was not quite as prevalent with the Tube Amp. So in this scenario, I would want to add a single or a pair of Rel T7x sub-base (subwoofer) speakers to the system. 

Adding a subwoofer (a REL Audiophile type subwoofer), to these or any pair of speakers is a practice we have learned in our showroom to get the most emotional impact and dynamic range delivery from a two channel system. (so that the speaker doesn’t have to work as hard on delivering base)

SUMMARY KIND OF

The Sonus Faber Lumina II’s were an excellent idea for a very modest speaker that still maintained that rich Sonus Faber sound. Some naysayers have suggested that ultra modest price speakers from a company famed for their high end audio sound coupled with their rich Italian wood construction, might be a detractor from their target market.  I say, no way.  They just opened the door for New or Seasoned Audiophiles that have to start out modest in their speakers, and then grow into the next level up in the Sonus Faber magnificent line of speakers. I have learned that the Lumina II’s can be played with a $900 Integrated Amp, a $3000 Integrated Tube Amp, all the way up to a McIntosh 462 paired with a C53 Pre-amplifier where the imaging and soundstage just gets better (as I have been told by a friend’s opinion I can surely trust) and does not disappoint. Meanwhile you are saving up for that pair of floorstanders that you have been dreaming of for your next step, a year or two down the road.

It’s the path of this hobby that makes it so fun, growing your system in increments.

Oldwaverider

We enjoy being your go to source for all Your High Performance to Ultra High End Home Stereo two Channel systems, Modest to Ultra High End Home Theater home entertainment systems.  We also enjoy Audiophiles just dropping in to talk the hobby, ask questions and even pick Ed Masterson’s brain on questions about your system and also about used and pre-owned gear sales, including in which we are an Audiogon Dealer, to help move your former gear as you pursue upgrading thoughts that you may have now or on down the road.

 

 

Audible Images AV is pleased to be serving: Melbourne, Florida, Rockledge, Merritt Island, Cocoa Beach, Cape Canaveral, Port St. John, Satellite Beach, Space Coast, Vero Beach, Orlando,  The Butler Chain of lakes including Lake Butler, Lake Tibet, Lake Down, Lake Sheen, Lake Louise, Lake Chase, Pocket Lake, Lake Blanche, Wauseon Bay, Lake Isleworth, and Little Fish Lake, along with Bay Hill, The Villages, Lady Lake, Daytona, Kissimmee, Central Florida, the entire state of Florida…and even the greater USA, for all their Stereo two channel and Home Theater systems.

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Add Some Aural Ecstasy to your two channel system with a REL S/812 or S/510 sub-base (subwoofer).

from the blog of Oldwaverider

The REL S/812 won the absolute sound magazine ‘Subwoofer of the Year’ award. (See the Jan. 2021 Issue 312)

from Neil Gader, Sep 24th, 2020 product review in September 2020 Issue 308, a few bullet excerpts from the article:

  • The pursuit of the bottom octave in sound reproduction looms as a sort of final frontier for many enthusiasts. It’s a task that’s generally accomplished in one of two ways—by purchasing a completely new set of loudspeakers (ouch!), or by adding a subwoofer (or, as is the case here, a pair of them) to fill the deep-bass vacuum in your current system.
  • The lower ranges of solo instruments like piano and cello bloomed with resonant energy. Solo cello and vocal baritones become chestier and more resonant.
  • Heavy percussion like tympani or kettle drums were reproduced with a frightening lack of compression (be ready), landing in the room like mortar rounds, with devastating pitch accuracy and weight. The S/812 established a firm foundation beneath the music that fortified images and conveyed perspective and scale.
  • When I turned to live acoustic music, chamber, chorale, symphonic, jazz, the promise of the S/812 truly began to be revealed.” End excerpt.

We have the sister sub-base on the floor, the REL S/510 setup in our “Office” listening room, and in stereo. (We don’t have the S/812 on the floor, only the sister)  Come in to do an ABA test.  If you’ve never experienced the sub-base addition to two channel listening, you’ll be really surprised 🙂  Often, you don’t need to upgrade those bookshelves or floorstanders if you already enjoy their tweeter & midrange.  Sometimes you’re just missing the bottom end.  Sub-base speakers allow you to hear all the music the artist intended in the recording.

See the larger photo of the sister S/510 to the S/812 in our office. This is the current system set up in the room. 

Rogue-Cronus-REL-510-Sonus-Olympica-Nova-3-IMG_3485-1500wIn addition to the S/510’s, we have the REL G1 Mark II in their Reference series in our “Transporter” room (in the photos of the slideshow at bottom of page).  We also have the T7i’s and the T9i’s on the floor in our more modest room systems.

You’ll enjoy the visit and the experience!

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Excellent Sound Can Keep Friends, Spouses and Even Grand Kids Hanging Around

from the Blog of Oldwaverider:

 

We got a great receiver in and that’s why I’m sharing this blog post and why I bought one for myself at home.

 

SO, PERHAPS WHAT YOU YOU’VE BEEN WANTING 

A modest priced, stereo and/or theater system  to replace that background music piece you’ve been playing all these years.  

YOU MIGHT BE ASKING:

  • Audible Images is known for their ultra high end gear, so how does this starter theater piece fit into their line, in regards to their passion for excellent sound?  
  • For music only would I be able to crank it up without triggering my wife asking me to turn the volume down? Can I also stream music from Spotify, Tidal, etc?
  • Would the system sound excellent enough that my wife or even grand kids would enjoy spending time in the room again and again?
  • With a budget of under 5K, will I feel totally happy with this as a starter theater or stereo system that  I can expand on later with speakers and subwoofers?

OUR NEW SHOWROOM PIECE

The new gear and system that I have played with the last week will solve the budget and lend itself to enjoying company in your personal stereo / theater media room.  

I just brought one home for myself, the NAD T758 v3i , and absolutely love it. (I already had some other speakers)

I’m talking about the new NAD T758 v3i Surround Sound Receiver (only $1500), which has 110 WPC (class A/B) for 2 channel listening and 60 WPC x 7 channel so there is plenty of power in your average sized room. I partnered it with Martin Logan ESL Electrostatic Loudspeakers, along with the ESL C Center speaker and 4 hidden on walls for 7.0, along with 2 REL Acoustics T7I Subwoofers.

A significant point to share is that the NAD Receiver connected to a TV with just 2 channels of sound, those being the Martin Logan ESL’ speakers is all you need to start out your excellent home theater with. You can add the center channel and 2 sets or surrounds along with the subwoofers later on!

For months, we waited for a couple of the new NAD receivers to be sent to our showroom.  The Covid thing really got ridiculous and shut a lot of manufacturers down for quite a spell. NAD included.

Finally we got the new NAD T758 v3i Surround Sound Receiver in. And I will say, it has not disappointed us in any way. In fact, it sounds fantastic. As I mention above, I JUST GOT ONE FOR MYSELF FOR MY NEW SYSTEM AT HOME.

    • Just come in to hear the NAD T758 v3i ($1500) with the Martin Logan ESL floorstander speakers ($2500), a no sales atmosphere for just listening/demo pleasure. It is setup for both two channel listening or 7.1 surround sound. For $4000 (which would not include the other 5 channels), it sounds fantastic as your TV 2 channel theater and/or stereo. And I’m confident, your spouse, girlfriend, grandkids, whomever will enjoy spending time in your room.  (You might need to keep a Playstation around if grands are involved, but maybe not)
    • Here’s the thing; at first it sounds out of your budget, right? It’s not. Truly. You can buy online or go to a department/big box store to get a receiver for maybe $800 and a 7.0 box of speakers for $600 plus a sub for $200, total system price of $1600, but it will 9 times out of 10 sound horrific.  It will probably have really cool visual displays, pretty colors, all kinds of functional bells and whistles, but when you come right down to the Absolute Truth, the sound quality will be garbage.  YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. And someone will always be asking you to turn down the volume. 
    • But for a little more than twice the price of the big box waste, you will have a stereo that is also a solid start for a home theater (it’s all you need for a home theater actually), and best of all, your wife will enjoy sitting with you (and not feel like she’s being tortured) and if you’re older, your grand kids might just come around more often.
    • You can stop reading now and just come on in for a laid back listening demo, with one of us for a few minutes, then we’ll leave ya alone and shut the door so you can critique all by your self

Down below the photo gallery I’ve shared some of the excellent features of the NAD piece. (I share a few details below the gallery regarding features of the NAD and tracks I demoed)

WHAT ELSE CAN YOU ENJOY ABOUT THIS NEW NAD T 758 V3I RECEIVER IN YOUR HOME?

  • If you like the idea of streaming unlimited music from your Spotify, Tidal, Qobuz, Amazon streaming service, well guess what? The T 758 v3i has built-in BluOS wireless streaming technology, letting you stream lossless music to your home theatre system from local libraries, tune in to Internet radio stations, and access popular music streaming services. And yes, it is MQA ready.
  • It is 4K ready
  • It has Pre Outs on the back in case you later on want to add an even more powerful amplifier to your front left and right speakers
  • You have digital inputs, 3 HDMI inputs, and one HDMI to go to your TV, so you have plenty of options to connect to your Receiver.  In most cases you can plug your Amazon Fire or Roku right into the HDMI input ports, and then you’re ready to go. (may be a little tweaking 😉
  • Some of the Video and Music I played:
  • “Midnight in Harlem” from the Crossroads – Eric Clapton Guitar Festival 2010 on Blu Ray.
  • “Chris Botti – in Boston” with a host of special guests on Blu Ray
  • “Nature Boy” – Lisa Ekdahl , streaming from Tidal
  • “Silver Rain” – by Marcus Miller, streaming from Tidal
  • “Hotel California” – Hell Freezes Over , streaming from Tidal
  • “Strauss: Also sprach Zarathustra, Op. 30, TrV 176 (Live) Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra

Both theater and 2 channel listening are a total pleasure on this NAD T 758 v3i mated with the Martin Logan ESL Electrostatic loudspeakers.  

Come in and hear my newest entertainment at home, right here in our Audible Images showroom here in the Eau Gallie Arts District!  You’ll be very glad you did.

Oldwaverider

 

We enjoy being your go to source for all Your High Performance to Ultra High End Home Stereo two Channel systems, Modest to Ultra High End Home Theater home entertainment systems.  We also enjoy Audiophiles just dropping in to talk the hobby, ask questions and even pick Ed Masterson’s brain on questions about your system and also about used and pre-owned gear sales, including in which we are an Audiogon Dealer, to help move your former gear as you pursue upgrading thoughts that you may have now or on down the road.

 

 

Audible Images AV is pleased to be serving: Melbourne, Florida, Rockledge, Merritt Island, Cocoa Beach, Cape Canaveral, Port St. John, Satellite Beach, Space Coast, Vero Beach, Orlando,  The Butler Chain of lakes including Lake Butler, Lake Tibet, Lake Down, Lake Sheen, Lake Louise, Lake Chase, Pocket Lake, Lake Blanche, Wauseon Bay, Lake Isleworth, and Little Fish Lake, along with Bay Hill, The Villages, Lady Lake, Daytona, Kissimmee, Central Florida, the entire state of Florida…and even the greater USA, for all their Stereo two channel and Home Theater systems.

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Begin Your Dream Home Theater System in Baby Steps, Start it with a 95 Pound Baby :)

from the blog of Oldwaverider:

I confess I don’t have children.  But I do know that I enjoyed listening to this baby, as I’m sure any other Movie lover or Audiophile would. And this new to our floor McIntosh MC257 7-Channel Power Amplifier is one hefty 95 lb. baby.  No unwanted colic, just gorgeous large meter display eyes and nice sweet powerful sound.

He was delivered to our Audible Images showroom on Monday, and when I came in Tuesday, it was time to set it up in just two channel mode to begin break-in and then testing on Thursday.

The Mindset

I decided , or Ed decided 😉 , that we could compare it to our newer Halo by Parasound A21+ 2 channel power amplifier.  We weren’t so much thinking about a test between two amps, as we were to just hear the power, quality and potential for this piece to deliver 7 channels of home theater power for someone.

Setup

We placed the McIntosh MC257 in our “Escape Pod” Home Theater / 2 Channel listening room. For a Preamp we used the Halo New P6 2.1 Channel Preamplifier.  We had the Martin Logan ESL 9’s as our test speakers, using Transparent Musicwave speaker cables and Musiclink interconnects.  We used the BlueSound Node 2i as a source.

The Comparison

I actually have to say the McIntosh and the A21+ were a pretty close comparison.  The Mac MC257 at $10,000 and divided by 7 channels is equal to around $1428 / per channel of Amplifier.  (to make this a fair comparison) The Halo Parasound is $2995 divided by 2 is equal to about $1497 / per channel of Amplifier. They both had their strengths. But neither one was blown away by the other in this case.  

What I did hear, was plenty of power by the A21+ shared in a recent blog post here, and plenty of power and nice clean sound by the McIntosh MC257.  If you’re starting out in your new home theater, a sweet thing about the Mac is the fact that it cranks out 250 wpc x 3 channels (You can set up a Right Front, Left Front and Center channel and add the other 2 to 4 channels later), and if you’re doing 7 channels right away, then you have a full 200 wpc x 7 channels driven.  And when I cranked it up, the dynamic headroom increase that McIntosh spoke about on their website definitely had room to spare.  Quote:

Filter capacity has been increased by 20% which has produced an amazing 94% increase in dynamic headroom from 1.7dB to 3.3dB as well as improving low frequency performance – both key features in a home theater amplifier, especially when listening to an energetic soundtrack.”

Next week I’m going to bring the MC257 into our “Great Room” listening room, and pair it with the McIntosh C2700 Vacuum Tube 2 Channel Preamp for a hear test.  And then I’m going to compare the MC257 using the dCS Bartok as a Preamp & DAC, with the C2700 / MC257 pair up and see what my ears decide with that one.

Summary

McIntosh once again delivered their promise of modest high end gear that provides clean and powerful sound, and I am happy to say made in New York State.  The MC257 will have no problem starting out your new home theater with clear dream and powerful sound, in 2 channel, 3 or 7 channel setup and within a large listening room of most any size in the typical American home.  Excellent piece!

Just another day at the office here at Audible Images.  Setting up new gear, listening, comparing, blogging about it.  Ed Masterson has created a very special Audiophile haven here.  And I enjoy my Audiophile opportunity to listen to many amazing pieces of gear here.

Come in, and just enjoy melting in each of our four listening rooms to hear Music, Movies and Concerts like you have never heard before in your life.

We promise you will feel being Transported back to a very special moment in your life.

Thank You,

Oldwaverider

We enjoy being your go to source for all Your High Performance to Ultra High End Home Stereo two Channel systems, Modest to Ultra High End Home Theater home entertainment systems.  We also enjoy Audiophiles just dropping in to talk the hobby, ask questions and even pick Ed Masterson’s brain on questions about your system and also about used and pre-owned gear sales. Also we are an Audiogon Dealer, and Miguel here can help move your former gear as you pursue upgrading thoughts that you may have now or on down the road.

 

Audible Images AV is pleased to be serving: Melbourne, Florida, Rockledge, Merritt Island, Cocoa Beach, Cape Canaveral, Port St. John, Satellite Beach, Space Coast, Vero Beach, Orlando,  The Butler Chain of lakes including Lake Butler, Lake Tibet, Lake Down, Lake Sheen, Lake Louise, Lake Chase, Pocket Lake, Lake Blanche, Wauseon Bay, Lake Isleworth, and Little Fish Lake, along with Bay Hill, The Villages, Lady Lake, Daytona, Kissimmee, Central Florida, the entire state of Florida…and even the greater USA, for all their Stereo two channel and Home Theater systems.

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The Good, The Better, Which is The Best?

from the blog of Oldwaverider:

Do You Have Fun at Work? I do, and I’d have to say I’m quite thankful to be here. Playing with, testing new gear and blogging about it in an Audiophile Playground, here at Audible Images is not only fun and a great learning experience, but it’s also an incredible opportunity to really enjoy music in a variety of constantly changing ways!

I had a chance to play with the new Rotel Michi S5 Stereo Amplifier $6995 along with the P5 Stereo Preamplifier $3995 and I have to admit they could easily intimidate some pricier competitor’s gear. Excellent sounding pieces/s with which I could unload a string of audiophile superlative jargon to express just how awesome it/they sounded.  Very impressive and enjoyable to hear.

The Gear

After listening to them for a while, some critical listening followed by some pleasure only time, and after they had broken in some, both Ed Masterson & I decided it would be interesting to compare two other pieces that we just so happened to have on our front showroom floor. One piece that was very modestly priced along with a significantly much higher price piece.  It wasn’t actually about comparing dollars, it just so happens that we brought the new Halo by Parasound A21+ Stereo Amplifier $2995 (along with the P6 2.1 Channel Stereo Preamplifier & DAC $1595) into our showroom and we already had the McIntosh MC 462 Stereo Amplifier $9000 (with the C 2700 Vacuum Tube Preamplifier $8000) all in our front demo room called “The Great Room“. We are going to see how the two above stack up against the new Rotel / Michi S5 stereo amplifier.

Now keep in mind, this is a blog post, not a review, about myself “Oldwaverider” just enjoying himself in the showroom testing out, playing with and comparing gear.  (and with blogs you don’t go through the grammar check obsession like in magazine reviews 😉 ) One thing that is constant, when I am playing with amplifiers, it is being done with a pair of speakers that are accurately tuned in place, within that listening room.  So back to our comparison post.

To create an even amplifier only test environment I used the dCS Bartok Streaming DAC as a preamp and source.  (Note: We us Roon throughout our showroom and use Tidal or Qobuz high rez for streaming) I set the voltage output to 6 volts (as opposed to the default 2 volts) simply because I was using the DAC as a preamp and source.  If it was just being used as a streaming DAC source only, then I would have left it at the 2 volt output which is the safest beginning choice going into a preamplifier.  (Note: Why did I even mention about the voltage setting for the dCS piece? Because there is often discussion as to what is the optimal voltage when using dCS dacs as a source only or as a preamp/source) Additionally, I used a set of of Transparent Musiclink Balanced Interconnects for each amplifier from the Bartok and Transparent Plus Speaker cables leading to a pair of Wilson Audio Yvette Loudspeakers.

NOTE: In the photos below, I goofed and forgot to shoot a photo with all three pieces sitting right there when I did the testing, two on the floor and the Mac in the rack along with the dCS Bartok in the rack.  So, please do me a favor and visualize the A21+ and the Michi S5 sitting on the floor right there in front of the McIntosh rack stack 🙂 So, thus the 3 separate photos portraying 2 of our demo rooms in our showroom and a stock photo of the Michi S5 🙂

My Method

I did something a little different for the first round of testing, and used just one track by Muddy Waters titled “My Captain” off of the ‘Folk Singer’ album.  Normally I use a very habitual select  choice of 5 well known or common test tracks and have at it. But Ed suggested I try this Muddy Waters song because of it’s unique solo instrument “riff” as I’ll call it, that is a very good test for a modest high end piece of gear.  Enabling you to detect venue characteristics (stage and wall echo, reverb, etc) and of Muddy Waters riff that might not even be heard in a modest piece of electronics. The song delivered a timbre and texture that does a really nice job of depicting the actual feel and sound of the stage acoustics and the unique characteristics of Muddy Waters and his guitar.  There were 4 or 5 distinct sounds I listened for.  You could call them a group of licks that work as kind of an intro to the more common riff or riffs of the song. But it boils down to some plucking, thumping and strumming that he does beginning with the top strings of the guitar, followed by some light tapping on the body of the guitar itself, a short plucking on the bottom strings a bellow out of vocals followed by an extended complete strum of all strings coupled with a little lead guitar.  (I don’t play myself, so you’ll need to give me some room on my description of the playing 🙂 )

1st Summary

My summary in short for the Muddy Waters track for all 3 pieces follows: The Michi provided the darkest and most clean and airy detail of all three. I would also add that the imaging was most clear on the Michi. Very interesting test.  Perhaps the Mac provided a little more detail and base thump but surprisingly it had a little bit of an edge added to the mids and highs in comparison to the Michi.  It would probably come down to personal preference and music styles that would tend to steer one toward the Michi or the Mac. Meaning, if I were an avid Rock or Rhythm & Blues listener I might lean toward the McIntosh, and if mostly classical or jazz were my genres, then perhaps the Michi might be my choice.  Now bang for the buck, the A21+ was a no brainer.  Meaning, the only item the Halo was lacking out of the common criteria was the airiness or spaciousness between the instruments.  Which for an Audiophile, that can be the deal breaker, but for the price tag on the new A21+ , the listening pleasure is just plain excellent with no brightness on the highs, no apparent colorations on mids or highs and no shortage of solid base.  Just an excellent starter Audiophile Amplifier with power to spare!

When I moved onto my normal 5 or 6 test tracks to experience an overall music enjoyment comparison, those tracks were:

  1. Fade to Black – Dire Straits
  2. Come Away with Me – Norah Jones
  3. Nature Boy – Lisa Ekdahl/Peter Nordahl Trio
  4. Night Mist Blues – Monty Alexander Trio
  5. Flight of the Cosmic Hippo – Bela Fleck & the Flecktones

Final Summary

As opposed to doing my standard OCD comparison of all 5 or 6 tracks x 3 amplifers, I think it would be more to the point to share which track I preferred with a choice of the 3 amplifiers.

The McIntosh MC 462 seemed to really deliver best on “Fade to Black” which is a track that really likes to have Amp and Speakers that can deliver the base punch.  Perhaps the Mac delivers just a little deeper base extension, which with a classic rock song like this it just sounded like the artist probably intended. The lead guitar and also the most prevalent guitar in the song comes from the left side of the stage and the Mac just gives you that slightly edgy Classic Rock sound along with plenty of detail.  Again, the bass which often provides the most energy for a song, is most enjoyable from the MC 462 for this track.

The brand new Rotel / Michi S5 brought out in the song “Night Mist Blues” what seemed to be the most transparent delivery of all 3 amplifiers for this song, from Monty Alexanders piano energy.  The stage is just so alive, the image so clear, and the timbre and texture were just spot on.  The recording just has a forward stage perspective the way it places you at the front row table or seat in the venue.  ‘And Monty is just so alive as the piano jumps across the stage from left to right.  And around the 1:20 mark of the song,  right after the piano drops from upper octave chords to low octave with a mellow cadence & tempo, the crowd starts clapping and you can feel the depth of the crowd around both sides of the stage. Just awesome delivery!

For the third amplifier in this pleasure test;  The new Halo by Parasound A21+, I have to close with a repeat what I shared above. You won’t get the same airiness/spaciousness of distinct layers between the instruments on the sound stage as the two much higher end pieces above, but the listening pleasure is just plain excellent with no brightness on the highs, no apparent colorations on mids or highs and no shortage of solid base.  Just an excellent starter Audiophile Amplifier with power to spare!

To hear three pieces like this, with such distinct price point differences, and yet walk away absolutely pleased with the listening experience for each,  I say awesome job to McIntosh, Rotel/Michi and Halo by Parasound. What an enjoyable test experience this was. 🙂

Treat yourself to an exceptional Audio listening experience and stop by to see Ed, Miguel or Myself.  No sales, just passion here, we simply want you to experience the music in 4 rooms, on the right gear and set up just right. 

We’ll leave you in the room and close the door, and let the music transport you wherever you want it to.

Oldwaverider

We enjoy being your go to source for all Your High Performance to Ultra High End Home Stereo two Channel systems, Modest to Ultra High End Home Theater home entertainment systems.  We also enjoy Audiophiles just dropping in to talk the hobby, ask questions and even pick Ed Masterson’s brain on questions about your system and also about used and pre-owned gear sales, including in which we are an Audiogon Dealer, to help move your former gear as you pursue upgrading thoughts that you may have now or on down the road.

 

 

Audible Images AV is pleased to be serving: Melbourne, Florida, Rockledge, Merritt Island, Cocoa Beach, Cape Canaveral, Port St. John, Satellite Beach, Space Coast, Vero Beach, Orlando,  The Butler Chain of lakes including Lake Butler, Lake Tibet, Lake Down, Lake Sheen, Lake Louise, Lake Chase, Pocket Lake, Lake Blanche, Wauseon Bay, Lake Isleworth, and Little Fish Lake, along with Bay Hill, The Villages, Lady Lake, Daytona, Kissimmee, Central Florida, the entire state of Florida…and even the greater USA, for all their Stereo two channel and Home Theater systems.

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NAD M10 on the Absolute Sound 2020 Editors’ Choice Award: All-In-One Electronics

We’re excited to share that the NAD M10 Streaming Amplifier is on the 2020 Absolute Sound Editors Choice Award.  Posted a few days ago.

Quote from the Absolute Sound website:

“No matter the source, the Master Series M10 had toes tapping from the comfort of a listening chair with total control from a smartphone. What it is is attractive, luxurious, simple to set up and use, small, ridiculously well featured, and wonderfully enjoyable to listen to. ”  See the article here.

Come in to experience the excellent sound in our showroom today.   See the product on our website here.

We enjoy being your go to source for all Your High Performance to Ultra High End Home Stereo two Channel systems, Modest to Ultra High End Home Theater home entertainment systems.  We also enjoy Audiophiles just dropping in to talk the hobby, ask questions and even pick Ed Masterson’s brain on questions about your system and also about used and pre-owned gear sales, including in which we are an Audiogon Dealer, to help move your former gear as you pursue upgrading thoughts that you may have now or on down the road.

 

 

Audible Images AV is pleased to be serving: Melbourne, Florida, Rockledge, Merritt Island, Cocoa Beach, Cape Canaveral, Port St. John, Satellite Beach, Space Coast, Vero Beach, Orlando,  The Butler Chain of lakes including Lake Butler, Lake Tibet, Lake Down, Lake Sheen, Lake Louise, Lake Chase, Pocket Lake, Lake Blanche, Wauseon Bay, Lake Isleworth, and Little Fish Lake, along with Bay Hill, The Villages, Lady Lake, Daytona, Kissimmee, Central Florida, the entire state of Florida…and even the greater USA, for all their Stereo two channel and Home Theater systems.

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How Can You Get Big Sound in a Small Space? – Part Two

Fascinating Transformation in a listening room that sounded noticeably less than excellent, on the first go around!

I learned so much from the experience and from Ed Masterson as we (Ed, Miguel and I) began conversion of this room, set up the gear in the room, mildly acoustic treated the room, tested this room and got so-so results in Round 1 of this room.  And then there was Round 2…

THINK ABOUT THAT FRUSTRATION WHEN YOUR MUSIC LISTENING ROOM DOESN’T SOUND RIGHT.  OR WHEN ANY PROJECT DOESN’T APPEAR TO GO RIGHT. WHEN YOU JUST KNOW (or at least hope) IT COULD BE OR SOUND BETTER!

So, the purpose of this story (Part 1 and 2), is to share an experience about how a listening room that sounded quite horrible at first came around to one of Audiophile excellence. And how a willingness to explore, experiment and be teachable through a bit of Audiophile Cross Fit and Persistence will grant you the rewards in the end of a phenomenal Audiophile Listening Room.  Well, that and someone with a great deal of knowledge from Experience,  Engineering and Audiophile Passion as that of Ed Masterson.

IN PART ONE WE STARTED OFF WITH:

I CAN’T GET THE MUSIC TO SOUND RIGHT IN THIS ROOM!

See Part One here, please see the blog post here.

So to recap from where we left off in Part One:

We did finally get the room tuned in on the South wall with the Wilson Audio Tune Tots speakers, with the NAD M10 Streaming Amplifier and the REL Acoustics T7i Sub-woofer pair to fill in on the base High Level (not LFE), as the t7i’s do go down to 30 hz.  The room sounded fairly good with all the gear setup on the South wall of “The Office”.  But not great.  

So, Ed Masterson canceled our event (our Annual Music Appreciation Event), and decided to experiment with the room some more.

Part Two – How Ed Transformed the Entire Listening Experience in our new “The Office” Listening Room

What would make someone take a nicely set up listening room, that sounds decent, has a nice visual appeal, and then completely redo the room like a wrecking ball?

Someone with a lot of passion and I’ll even toss in the word pride, for how his listening rooms sound when completed. Be it a customer’s home, or one of Ed’s and Our listening rooms in our Audible Images showroom, Ed just wants to get it right.  (See Ed’s approach on our AV Dream Designs page here and the YouTube Testimonial & Approach video here.)

So maybe it was the following weekend after we got the pseudo-tuned room completed that Ed decided to re-arrange.  The room is like 11 ft x 10 ft, and now the equipment would be moved to the 11 foot wide East wall, from it’s former position on the south wall.

It’s actually a much more beautiful view having the gear all placed against the East wall of the room.  It’s a very tropical and artsy feel around here anyhow (our showroom is in what is called the “Eau Gallie Arts District” or EGAD, an area in Melbourne of antiquity and fine art), with some really stunning estates across the street.  And if you really know to look for it, you can see the Indian River through a little corner in the upper right of the neighbor’s property across the street. Occasionally you can even see sailboats anchored in the water behind the house. I’m getting off on a tangent here 🙂

Back on point, the move did give us a few more inches of breathing room (about 6 more inches on ea. side) for the speakers.  Ed set up the same gear, the Tune Tots, M10 and the REL T7i’s with the high level connection. (Note: REL Acoustics provides a very unique, easy to setup, 3 pre-stripped wire connection to the speakers with the Speak-on connectors on the other end that go into the high level connection on the back of the subs, specifically for 2 channel listening.  They also have an LFE connection for a surround setup)

Ed did all this over the weekend.

When I came in on Tuesday, to say I was blown away would be an understatement.  The base was clean, fast, we had a great soundstage, the tonal balance, perspective, were all good and most of all, the listening experience had you melting into total voluntary aural submission in the chair.

Over the next week, Ed did some fine tuning with the room, not to much more of moving gear around, maybe a little, but then he focused on adjusting & lowering some of the wall art canvas pictures to tighten up not so much the base now, but more on getting an even clearer audio image of the different instruments in the mids and highs.   

The room was now ready for our Music Appreciation Event.

Experimentation with Additional Amplifiers and Speakers

Over the next month we started experimenting with a number of speakers and amplifiers, and following the NAD M10 success, we then brought in the Parasound Hint 6 integrated amplifier (a nice sounding piece with versatility too) to hear with the Tots.  Very nice.

Then we brought in the Dan D’Agostino Momentum Integrated Amplifier (which if you have never heard one, is well worth a 100 mile drive to just come hear) and we began to discover that this room, this ridiculously small room was actually quite astounding sounding. The Tune Tots with the D’Agostino Integrated Amplifier and the REL T7i’s for bottom end sounded absolutely amazing.  We then moved the NAD M10 and Tune Tots into our front showroom so folks could hear it out there when they first walked in the door.  Not because we were kicking them out of the room.  We were on a high, just blown away with how good this room was now sounding.  You could say we were in tunnel vision just to hear all the possibilities of this room.

Then we started testing the Wilson Audio Sabrina’s with no subs.  There was actually not enough room for subwoofers beside the Sabrinas.  I heard someone say, that the Sabrina’s, with the dCS Rossini DAC & Player and the D’Agostino Integrated was kind of overkill for this room.  And he was probably right, lol. But it sure was fun finding out that we could put Wilson’s smallest floorstander in this room and hear that Wilson time alignment magic force you into a semi catatonic drooling a little bit listening state 🙂

Now it was time to give the room a Sonus Faber makeover.  We setup the Sonus Faber Sonetto III’s paired with the REL T7i’s, and yes, that sounded excellent.  But I believe the anxious moment was to hear the Olympic Nova I’s in the room, and paired with the REL T7i’s.  They sounded quite awesome, and we also decided, (well Ed decided) that the Olympica’s needed a more closely matched bottom end partner.  The T7i’s are excellent, but they are modest priced subs, and an upgrade in subwoofer was needed to match the lower bass and quickness that one would expect with a higher end sounding speaker as the Olympica Nova I’s.

I know I need to close out this article but I have to share a couple other discoveries of what could be done with this mere closet size of a listening room. 🙂

So, Ed decided that an appropriate upgrade in subwoofers for this two channel setup was a pair of REL S/510’s, and that is when I believe we hit Nirvana (and that is a word I do not use).

OMG, the sound of the Olympica Nova I’s was as good in analogy as the entire Visual and Audio culture that Sonus Faber creates with their speakers in how they are designed to look (lute shaped) and sound like the famous violins made in Italy. Those Olympica speakers that we knew were magical when we tested them out during a demo from Woody our Sonus Faber & McIntosh rep, even though the room itself sounded horrific back then, paired with the newly arrived REL S/510’s matched with the D’Agostino Momentum Integrated Amp and the dCS Rossini DAC & Player was just flat out beautiful to the ears.

You have got to come in to hear this room and these audiophile magnifico speakers. I’m in one of those justified moods using over the top hyperbole.

Lastly, this past Friday, we had our Olympica’s out on loan to a friend, and I asked Ed if we could setup the Sonus Faber Guarneri’s in the new location.  I laugh, thinking back as to how bad they sounded placed on that south wall a few months ago.  The muddiness that was unacceptable to even someone who hates listening to music.  Now with the Guarneri’s on the East wall, we haven’t even connected the REL Acoustics S/510’s yet. (And we almost always have REL subs connected to 2 channel listening, because it allows you to literally hear all the music the artist intended) We got the Guarneri’s setup, roughly tuned in, no subs, just Sonus Faber Guarneri’s on stands.  

The result was a Reward of Irony.  The Guarneri’s sounded absolutely beautiful.  The tonal balance was just right and the spaciousness of vocals, piano, saxophone had a bloom so clean and layered you couldn’t help but smile, and the images were very focused and crisp. And the base was very good, no mud, just appropriate quick accurate base.

An excellent Audiophile experience of Italian excellence.  I mean, everything sounded special in this new room.  And this combination of gear and placement which included the Guarneri’s, D’Agostino and Rossini (even though it’s made in England, it sounds Italian 🙂 , is a culmination of effort that provided us smiles.

Come in to hear it.  Just Enjoy the Music.

Moral to the story, if it doesn’t work the first time, try again.  If it doesn’t work the 2nd time, Call Ed…

Thank you for stopping bye.

Please see the photo gallery below of our progressive experimentation in “The Office” listening room.

Detailed Summary of Lessons Learned Bullets

  • I will be expanding on these bullets in the future. I am anxious to get this story live, but I’ll be back to expound upon what Ed did to transform a room from Dud to Dynamic.
  • Go and Listen to a couple of Listening Rooms like in our showroom to establish a “Reference” of what excellent sound is and can be.  So that you will know what to strive for based on your budget and listening preferences
  • Don’t get stuck on your first or even second room configuration or layout. Sometimes issues may exist that you are unable to see or notice early on.
  • Speaker placement. (will be covered here)
  • Almost a necessity for Subwoofers to be added for two channel listening
  • Room Dimensions and Approach
  • Knowing how to describe what you’re hearing
  • Acoustic Treatment, how to approach it and how it refines but not necessarily defines how your room will sound
  • Matching Gear correctly
  • Asking for help

NOTE: This bullet list I am going to come back to and not only add the details it, but also refine it.  I just wanted to get Part II published and out the door, because it was just so amazing to hear and experience.

We enjoy being your go to source for all Your High Performance to Ultra High End Home Stereo two Channel systems, Modest to Ultra High End Home Theater home entertainment systems.  We also enjoy Audiophiles just dropping in to talk the hobby, ask questions and even pick Ed Masterson’s brain on questions about your system and also about used and pre-owned gear sales, including in which we are also an authorized Audiogon Dealer, to help move your former gear as you pursue upgrading thoughts that you may have now or on down the road.

 

 

Audible Images AV is pleased to be serving: Melbourne, Florida, Rockledge, Merritt Island, Cocoa Beach, Cape Canaveral, Port St. John, Satellite Beach, Space Coast, Vero Beach, Orlando,  The Butler Chain of lakes including Lake Butler, Lake Tibet, Lake Down, Lake Sheen, Lake Louise, Lake Chase, Pocket Lake, Lake Blanche, Wauseon Bay, Lake Isleworth, and Little Fish Lake, along with Bay Hill, The Villages, Lady Lake, Daytona, Kissimmee, Central Florida, the entire state of Florida…and even the greater USA, for all their Stereo two channel and Home Theater systems.

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Audiophile Societies in Florida served by Audible Images

Audible Images AV in Melbourne, Florida holds Audiophile events from time to time.

On occasion I have had the good fortune to meet a couple members from our local Space Coast Audio Society, that attended our most recent event back in December 2019.

That said, I would just like to invite anyone from our Florida Audiophile Groups to stop in for a chat, listen, or pick Ed’s brain or any of us with any questions you may have.

I note the following groups below, so that they may discover this blog post as an open invitation to any future events that we have. 

Also I provide a couple links below for those that have an interest in Used,  Pre-owned or Demo Audio Gear, as we offer items Pre-owned on our website and on our Audiogon Dealer Store. 

Additionally I include a video below that explains about Audible Images and Ed Masterson’s approach in helping customers.

Audiophile Societies in Florida that I know of, welcome:

Space Coast Audio Society

Suncoast Audiophile Society

Sarasota Audiophile Society

Emerald Coast Audiophile Society

 

Link to our website Pre-owned / Used /Demo Gear below:

Pre-owned and Demo Gear Specials

 

Link to our Audiogon Dealer Store.

(Audiogon store will have all of our Used, Pre-owned and Demo gear listings along with a number of smaller items that would not be added to our Pre-owned gear section on our website)

The Experience with Audible Images: Video

We enjoy being your go to source for all Your High Performance to Ultra High End Home Stereo two Channel systems, Modest to Ultra High End Home Theater home entertainment systems.  We also enjoy Audiophiles just dropping in to talk the hobby, ask questions and even pick Ed Masterson’s brain on questions about your system and also about upgrading thoughts that you may have on down the road.

 

Audible Images AV is pleased to be serving: Melbourne, Florida, Rockledge, Merritt Island, Cocoa Beach, Cape Canaveral, Port St. John, Satellite Beach, Space Coast, Vero Beach, Orlando,  The Butler Chain of lakes including Lake Butler, Lake Tibet, Lake Down, Lake Sheen, Lake Louise, Lake Chase, Pocket Lake, Lake Blanche, Wauseon Bay, Lake Isleworth, and Little Fish Lake, along with Bay Hill, The Villages, Lady Lake, Daytona, Kissimmee, Central Florida, the entire state of Florida…and even the greater USA, for all their Stereo two channel and Home Theater systems.

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How Can You Get Big Sound in a Small Space? – Part One

I CAN’T GET THE MUSIC TO SOUND RIGHT IN THIS ROOM!

Ever said that?

In our Melbourne showroom having been around since 2007, we’ve heard our share of stories, frustrations and challenges from Audiophiles, in their attempts to achieve great sound in their chosen listening room and within their desired budget.

You Can Learn To Tune Your Own System – We’re here to help

Some of the questions asked are How can I get really good or big sound in my room? What will it take? What are the issues with this room? Why does the bass sound so bloated?  Why does piano and some vocals seem so bright, as though the entire stage was right in my face?  Is it my gear? Do I need to spend big bucks just to get this room and my music to sound really good? I know so little about acoustic treatment, what can I do?

Negative assumptions you perhaps have made about your room:

Maybe the room is just too small. Perhaps it has so many potentially acoustic reflective resonance issues that would need to be addressed, that the room may be hopeless. Maybe the walls are decked with cutaways and alcoves that are causing the base issues. Books, ceramic art, vaulted ceilings, ceramic tile or laminate floors and lots of windows or a big glass sliding door to deal with that are causing reflective resonance issues. Perhaps it is your home office and it’s the only room you have to work with for listening to music.  It seems your investment in this room just isn’t going to pay off.

Could it simply be that your speakers and subs were not positioned in the exact place that they needed to be? 

Perhaps this was done because your spouse didn’t want the speakers to stick out into the room. Maybe this distorted sounding room was not rectified simply because you did not have the knowledge, patience or know how, YET, to tune your speakers to the room. 

Well, we pulled the trigger for you.  

It is our hope that by the time you’ve read through the experience that we went through in this story, that you’ll gather some of the answers you need to get your sound improvement on the right path.  Maybe solved.  If not, stop in to the showroom and pick Ed Masterson’s brain, he always enjoys sharing ideas with fellow Audiophiles.  Here’s a great video that explains what Ed Masterson and Audible Images is all about.

We took a room (which we now call “The Office”), that at first glance appeared to be an AV Audiophile Consultants nightmare  in trying to get good sound out of such a space.  Note: The blog post photo above is the initial room layout, the one that didn’t work out like we had hoped, but ended up sounding just okay.

  • Ed Masterson, is as many of you know, a very passionate and knowledgeable Audiophile. So in his calculated yet shoot from the hip approach he just decided to take our former Office and convert it into a listening/demo room.  
  • I believe he did it for a couple reasons.  One, it was time to do or add something new to our showroom, especially with an Event we had coming up.  But two, I believe Ed wanted the challenge of taking a room that at first glance would seem to depict some major acoustic challenges and also seemed ridiculously too small for a listening room and yet would address the “Can I convert a small room in my home and end up with a Big Sound?” question.
  • Our purpose here in this blog post: To share that a challenging room environment of a small office 10 feet by almost 11 feet  could be made to sound excellent by proper placement of the speakers and with only modest acoustic treatment and zero use of EQ or room correction systems. 
  • Ed’s Passionate, Engineering  and Audiophile approach to always find a way nailed it, big time. But not the first time around.

Basic Description & Initial purpose of room:

Our former showroom office is the room we used. Important note here is the fact that our entire showroom is a house, not a strip mall suite built for a retail type of store. So the point I am making is that our showroom quite easily replicates someone’s home. We are experiencing the same in home type of issues that you are addressing.

“The Office” (now our 4rth demo room) is a smaller rectangular space typical of a spare bedroom or small home office. It is approximately 11 x 10 feet with a vaulted ceiling that angles from just above the East windows at 9 feet approx, up to 11 feet at the peak of the apex. With two cutout vaults or alcoves. (One alcove is on the west wall , see photos, and the other is smaller and more angled and cut-out above the North wall) Both double windows comprise 94 inches wide by 52 inches tall of wall space, leaving only 3.5 feet of solid wall on the final Speaker wall, and just over 2 feet on the initial speaker test wall. Solid wood floors and artistic textured drywall throughout.

Below is a photo gallery to show you not only the Part 1 final setup, but more importantly, the room challenges, such as the walls, windows and vaulted type ceiling issues and alcoves.  We’ll discuss the mild acoustic treatments later on in Part Two of this story.  We want you to see the actual room acoustic challenges we were faced with in this 1st slideshow.

Acoustic Treatment:

We pre-treated the room if you will, by placing some photos (3 or 4) printed on canvas, no glass just a wood frame wrapped in canvas to absorb some sound reflections. Additionally, the room had 4 Tube Traps that we already had in prior locations within the showroom. Now with the casual treatments in place, we moved a “Silent Structure” rack (one of Audible Images own gear racks) with a polished and rounded marble top against the South wall and loaded it with some existing speakers and electronics gear. 

Initial Sound Results:

We first tested the sound in the room with a McIntosh MA7900 Integrated Amplifier with Sonus Faber Guarneri speakers.  Cranked it up, first test, FAIL, tonal balance was horrific , very poor sounding base.  The base was bloated and had excessive muddiness.  I would also add, very congested sounding, as the bass reflections bounced from the walls and mixed with the newest transient strike of the next note being played, before any proper base dynamic decay could take place.  The mid range and highs couldn’t even be assessed yet. We couldn’t get it to sound right even though we did have a slight trace of a sound-stage. It was clear after re-positioning the speakers multiple times that we weren’t going to achieve a satisfying result, or eliminate the excessive bass resonance & muddiness issues.  Just to feel like we were trying something other than moving speakers, we then connected the Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum II with the Guarneri’s to see what it would do with the base bloat.  Yeah, let’s try a Tube Integrated Amplifier and see if that drops some of the bloat out. Nada, not much difference. So naturally at this point, we went to the bar across the street for some cocktails.

Just kidding.

Now Ed, already knew that this was simply a part of the discovery process of setting up and testing a new room.  So it’s not like anyone was angry, or planning on punching the UPS guy coming in the door with a delivery.  However, we knew we had to reduce some room reflections, since moving the speakers further out from the back wall to get our recommended distance (as shared by Audiophile experts) based on the size of the room was not helping.  Nor did the adjustments of moving the Guarneri’s further in or out from the side walls help with the tuning process.  But then we were saved.  Our Sales rep from McIntosh and Sonus Faber showed up.  Now he didn’t solve our problem, he just happened to bring a wonderful distraction from what we were perhaps to highly engrossed in, and quite frustrated with.  Woody brought in the new Sonus Faber Minima Amator II’s and the Olympica Nova I’s for us to hear.  This distraction brought us smiles, and this was a very good thing 🙂

Our base problem was in no way solved or necessarily reduced, but we were able to hear the beautiful transparency of the mids & highs of the Olympica Nova I’s. And the Minima’s were quite nice but the life-raft if you will of pleasure came mostly with the excellent mid-range and highs of the Olympica Nova I’s.  This distraction was very helpful to me.  (though technically the Guarneri’s should blow away the Olympica’s for the simple fact that they are more than twice the price, but for whatever reason, no go, the Guarneri’s are great speakers, they just didn’t like being in this room on the South end).

Ordered New Gear:

Being in no rush, we put the room on hold until some new floor products arrived.  We had ordered the Wilson Audio Tune Tots and the NAD M10 Integrated Streaming Amplifier .

We were pretty excited to hear the Wilson Audio Tune Tots.  Our showroom was already modestly stocked with Wilson Audio speakers which include the Wilson Sabrina’s, Yvettes and the Alexx’s which are in our main listening room “The Transporter”.  But now we would have the opportunity to hear the Tots with their new custom Isolation Base.  And we had already read a nice review on the NAD M10 Streaming Amplifier which is part of the NAD Master Series.  We have the NAD M17 Preamp/Processor along with the M27 7 channel Amplifier in our modest high end theater demo room called “The Escape Pod”.  And now the opportunity to hear the tiny M10 Streaming Amplifier that is spoken of as having a big sound in a small package was kind of exciting.

We got the Tune Tots placed with their Isolation Bases and on stands.  The M10 was setup on our 2 tier rack, connected, and we then let the testing begin.

What followed? We had a major Audiophile paradoxical laugh!  Now we weren’t getting hardly any base with the new Tune Tot bookshelf monitors on stands.  We went from a massive buffet of base , to starvation from base.  Pretty funny actually.  We decided the Tune Tots could not be to blame.  Partially they could and this was simply because the Wilson upfront frequency specs on them were 65 hz to 23 khz.  Something was causing extreme + or – base issues and for now we could not address it with speaker positioning, mild acoustic treatment or even with a change of three different amplifiers.

Now the pressure was really on.  We had our annual “Music Appreciation Event” coming up in like 10 days and we had a new room that at this point needed to have the door closed and padlocked during the Event.

Some Success:

So, when you have an excellent set of speakers, and an excellent amplifier but minimal base, what do you do next?  You add stereo subwoofers from REL Acoustics.  

We pulled in the REL T7i’s as a pair from “The Escape Pod” room, because now with the Tune Tots we no longer had a bloated base issue, but rather a non existing base issue 🙂  So we tuned the subs in the best we could that day.  The T7i’s could provide down to 30 hz, and the Tune Tots already had that magical Wilson Audio Time Alignment and Tonal balance magic with their mids and highs as depicted in all of their speakers. So after getting the High level volume set with the REL’s, the REL Crossover’s set, we had the room sounding pretty good.

Ed continued to tweak the room via minor speaker adjustments, toe-in, etc, adjusting the modest acoustic treatments, placing sound absorbing objects in the two alcoves above the two walls.

And whallah.  The system was tuned.  The room was tuned.  It sounded pretty good.

A couple of days later, Ed called our manufacturer Reps from Wilson Audio, NAD, Sonus Faber/McIntosh and REL Acoustics and he cancelled our November 2019 Event, and rescheduled for late December.

The room just wasn’t good enough for Ed.  He knew that it was time to completely change the layout of the room.  Good was just not good enough. Not for the Passionate/Audiophile/Engineer/Customer Service mind of Ed Masterson who believes a customer’s high end sound system should be treated like a Doctor monitoring a Heart Patient’s Pacemaker, with a great deal of finesse and care.  And thus the same treatment and setup for a room in our Audible Images showroom.

Summary of How To Get Started in System Tuning including the room we did.

  • Just get started on your room.  Follow the rules if you will that say to place your speakers about 1/5 distance of the room from the back wall.  Even up to 1/3 in some cases.  We did about 1/5. Arrange your speakers and your center listening chair in about an equilateral triangle position.  The chair can be closer to the speakers, than the distance between the 2 speakers.  Experiment a little, because different speakers have different position requirements
  • If you have a lot of window area like we did, close the blinds or shades about 2/3 to reduce reflection.  If you have a bare floor, get a nice simple throw rug with a simple carpet padding underneath it to absorb reflections also.  Remove glass frame pictures on the walls and just use canvas wrap pictures if possible.
  • Add 2 bass traps and 4 if possible, ASC are the ones we used. Pricey, but well worth it. 
  • Use a table or equipment stand that has very low to almost no vibration issues.  We fill our racks with sand and seal the ends with a silicon glue to absorb and dampen vibration issues.
  • If you really want to learn how to get your room sounding awesome, you need to learn the language of good sound.  Why? So that you can describe to Ed or others what you’re hearing or not hearing so that others can help you with your room tuning. First read the ever critical article at Crutchfield: Learn the language of good sound
  • The article in the line above provides an excerpt from the Introductory Guide to High-Performance Audio Systems by Robert Harley , Editor-in-Chief of The Absolute Sound magazine. This stuff is not that complicated per-say from a reading perspective, but it does take time & patience to learn it.  So read the above article and start to learn the terms I list here in next bullet below
  • Sonic Descriptions and their Meanings, Frequency Ranges, Tonal Balance, Overall Perspective, The Treble, The Midrange, The Bass, Soundstaging, Dynamics, Detail, Musicality
  • For terms that drill down in explaining details within the terms just mentioned above, use Stereophile.com magazines Online Glossary called: Sounds Like? An Audio Glossary Glossary
  • And to really take your knowledge to the next level in systems get the hardcover book  or the Kindle/eTextbook (like I have) for: The Complete Guide to High-End Audio Fifth Edition by Robert Harley – $14.99 eTextbook/Kindle or Paperback $24.95. AWESOME BOOK!!!  You can take notes right on your iPhone or Android and it remembers where you left off in the book.
  • We’ll get into other details in Part Two of this story/article.  Ed Masterson has had over 25 years experience building and tuning systems and it is his passion.  Come in, ask Ed questions, and have fun taking your system to the next level!  Miguel and Myself also love this stuff and want to help.

 

THE MIRACULOUS ROOM AND SYSTEM SOUND CHANGE WILL BE COVERED IN PART TWO of :

How Can You Get Big Sound in a Small Space? – Part Two

 

We enjoy being your go to source for all Your High Performance to Ultra High End Home Stereo two Channel systems, Modest to Ultra High End Home Theater home entertainment systems.  We also enjoy Audiophiles just dropping in to talk the hobby, ask questions and even pick Ed Masterson’s brain on questions about your system and also about used and pre-owned gear sales, including in which we are also an authorized Audiogon Dealer, to help move your former gear as you pursue upgrading thoughts that you may have now or on down the road.

 

 

Audible Images AV is pleased to be serving: Melbourne, Florida, Rockledge, Merritt Island, Cocoa Beach, Cape Canaveral, Port St. John, Satellite Beach, Space Coast, Vero Beach, Orlando,  The Butler Chain of lakes including Lake Butler, Lake Tibet, Lake Down, Lake Sheen, Lake Louise, Lake Chase, Pocket Lake, Lake Blanche, Wauseon Bay, Lake Isleworth, and Little Fish Lake, along with Bay Hill, The Villages, Lady Lake, Daytona, Kissimmee, Central Florida, the entire state of Florida…and even the greater USA, for all their Stereo two channel and Home Theater systems.

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